Wry Punster

Welcome to Laceville

Population: One.  Tons of birds.  All crows.

While on the great family vacation of Ugh Eight (actually, it was wonderful but the pun was too good not to use), my mother shanghaied me into a bead shop.  I have a poorly documented but well developed weakness for shiny things, with a hell of precious stone stash for one so young and so dependent on a stipend.  It's embarrassing, but I come by it naturally; PunMom is equal parts magpie and ATM.

After purchasing these lovelies, we took a pleasant stroll to a yarn store. Suddenly, I was holding two skeins of silk lace weight and a sinking suspicion I'd been had.

Next PunKnit?  A Swallowtail Shawl. 

Oh, Mom, you're lucky I love you so.  There aren't many people for whom I'd stitch-for-stitch reproduce a shawl, even in pure silk.

ps: for the inquiring minds, River is done, blocked and awaiting a photo shoot.  Two lace shawls in three weeks, with a sweater in the middle.  I am on fire.

Neither A Sweater Noro Bathrobe

But an unholy combination of the two.

Which, for the record, was exactly what I was going for.

10 skeins of Noro Iro (132 yards per ball, 75% Wool, 25% Silk).  8 skeins purchased from the Knit Happens Online Store blowout sale about eighteen months ago, plus two skeins from a Raveler. 

The genesis of this sweater was Kilrean, a Donegal Tweed pattern by Debbie Bliss.  The same pattern book features one of my most beloved winter pullovers, Inishbeg, but I reworked the pattern substantially.

Some of my changes included:

-adding a border over ten garter rows to prevent rolling to all pattern pieces.  The original pattern has no border and is entirely stockinette.  I hate rolls, both stomach and sweater, so a border was a necessity.

-knitting the collar integrally with the fronts and then knitting it on to the back of the sweater, shaping the spin with short rows and increases.  Sounds complicated, totally not. 

-grafting the collar together rather than seaming.  Again, sounds complicated, totally not.

-a longer body and sleeves by three inches.  This is a sweater for a tall friend and she's got very long arms.

-stronger waist shaping in an effort to offset the chunkifying power of bulky, horizontally striped yarn.  This was less effective than I would have liked, but this cardigan was never trying to be sexy.

-a super long belt, almost twice the length specified in the pattern.  I was going for rakish and daring, but if Friend hates it, I'll rip it back.  I also did the belt over 8 stitches, rather than the pattern's number.

-the collar is only about 60 percent of the width of the pattern's.  I was trying to save yarn, but in the end, it didn't matter.

-Even though I knit the smallest size (which was still huge!) I ran really short of yarn.  Part of this I attribute to adding the borders, but my collar is much smaller than the original, which ought to have offset some of the yarn usage.  Either way, I needed about 300 yards more than the pattern.  If you make a Kilrean, pick up an extra skein to be safe.

In short, a fairly basic bulky weight cardigan, made flashy by the yarn.  Every time I knit with Noro, I veer between a passionate love affair with the colors and a blinding, spitting hatred of the knots.  Add to that the expense, and I think I'm done with Noro for a while.  But this sweater?  I'm quite pleased with it.

Last Verse Same As The First

As the rest of you people prepare for the sweltering heat and hideously inflated prices of Maryland Sheep and Wool (oh, who am I kidding?  I WISH I WERE GOING!) I am packing for that great milestone of my father's life: the parental wellspring sputters its last college payment.  PunBrother graduates!

Packing for this adventure has proved difficult, as I am utterly bereft of a knitting project to take along.  Anyone who mentions the second sleeve of the Union Square Market Pullover is hereby booted from this blog.  The Stomach Flu Socks won't make it past the flight down.  Everything else is currently blocking on the bed.  What to knit, peeps, what to knit??

Having considered stealing my Grandmother's Birthday Shawl from her (as she is 84 and somewhat less spry than I) the Swallowtail Shawl is a top contender. 

In the Plus Column:
-a portable size,
-a pleasant pattern
-blocking would take care of any traveling dust
-the bead store in the vacation city is fabulous. 

In the Con Column:
-well, I did just knit one, right?  I may be crazy but I am not crazy.
-triangular shawls make me very conscious of my butt.
-my favorite shawls are diamonds or really, really big squares.
-I know I just said it, but it merits repeating (as I am clearly in a mind to do things twice): am I really thinking of knitting the same pattern twice with no break?

In writing this, I may have ruled out the Swallowtail.  Hark, what a useful thing this blog is! 

The other big contender is a shawl I've secretly eyed since its original publication.  When the pattern magazine went on sale for a dollar (!) it came home with me.  Oh, Rowan, why must you be ridiculous and charge $30 for a magazine?

What, pray tell is this coveted item? 

A River Stole! (picture from the Rowan website) 

Ever since Mind of Winter Julia photographed her stole, I've desired both a stole of my own and a vacation in which to create such a lovely object.  You might even say I stole the idea from her.  Hardee har!

More seriously, though, this appears to be the perfect project for my trip.  Putting aside the tediously written out instructions this delicate wrap would capitalize on the sumptuous perfection that is the yarn and be the ideal project.  A quick skim of the instructions reveals that the repeat is just offset by one stitch once you get the rhythm established: no counting required!

Fidget Ann brought her Brooks Farm Duet to a stash swap over a year ago; since then, I've been hoarding the yarn, waiting for the perfect moment.  This lovely lemony pink yarn matches my very favorite summer party dress, a bargain steal from an eye-poppingly expensive store.  I paid a tenth of its original price.  How apropos to knit a matching stole from free yarn!

Please also note, this project also opens the door for a multitude of related puns.  Upon completion?  A River Runs Through It.  If I hate it?  The River Of De Nile.  While I may not deliberately select projects for their wordplay value, it's always a nice bonus, something shore to please.

All puns aside (you can put them o-pun each other, if you like) this is the newest project in Punsterville.  See you next week!

The Pros of the Stomach Flu

Normally, I try to avoid waxing poetic on the virtues of vomit.  Having spent all Friday night and most of Saturday voiding my guts of anything organic (and possibly some gum I swallowed in 1989), though, I am well, reasonably fit and hungry for solid food.  A victory!

Alas, my recovery coincided neatly with the valiant fall of one Sir Punsir.  Currently, he is sprawled in his sick bed, dreaming in  Pepto Bismol Pink, and I have a few minutes to post, thus sharing what will undoubtedly (hopefully?) become finished objects during my Flo Nightingale tenure.

Objecto Numero Uno: A Cheeky Nod To My Own Stupidity

I've been referring to this sweater on Ravelry as "Those Who Forget The Past Are Condemned To Repeat It," which is only funny if it's not ironic.  Turns out, knitting an entire sweater on size 1s is about as fun as poking yourself in the eye with the same needles.  My gauge is dead-on (be thankful for small gifts) but my shape is all wrong for this sweater.  My rack won't allow the trademark overlaying flap to, you know, overlay, so what I've got is a watered down version of a great sweater.  When I find the moral strength to knit the second sleeve, it's getting wrapped up for the December Gifting Box.  And we will never speak of it again.  Sob!

Objecto Numero Dos: Don't Save More Than You Can Afford

My grandfather sagely used to remind my grandmother to resist the urge to snap up items on the "Say Goodbye" table at Nordstrom's.  Would that I had kept this in mind when purchasing eight skeins of Noro Iro from Knit Happens Online "It's So Cheap, You Practically Only Pay Shipping! Sale" 

Did I run out?  You betcha.

Did the two skeins I bought cost more than original eight?  Why yes, yes they did!

Luckily, a charming fellow Raveler had the same color and dye lot in her "Trade or Sell" column, at a discount, no less!, and when the new skeins arrived this morning, I practically squealed. They match!  This being Noro, such things are never assured.   

I'm knitting a heavily modified version of Kilrean, by Debbie Bliss, possibly for me or else a good friend with a milestone event approaching.  Effing this oh is more likely, since I'm actually further along than this picture would indicate.  Perhaps in between Gatorade runs and basin rinses? 

Lastly, for those of you who are interested, I've updated Fermina's Shawl and Crazy Love in Ravelry to include pictures of the recipients.  Both were delighted.  Thanks for all your sweet compliments!

Zip, zip, zip!

My Grandmother turns 84 this week, so when I decided to knit her a present last week, I knew it would have to be something whose impressive-factor far outweighed its time consumption.  I did a fair amount of research on Ravelry and then went stash shopping.  I kept coming back to a special, discontinued yarn I'd been hoarding for a wrap for me.  After two days of considering, the time pressure was getting dire.  I said goodbye to my planned project, went to the bead shop and cast on.  Then I knit.

By which I mean, I knit a shawl.  I started Wednesday evening; I blocked Saturday night. 

Evelyn Clark's Swallowtail Shawl, knit in 500 yards of Brooks Farm Harmony, 55% Kid Mohair, 22.5% Wool, 22.5% Silk, in a color as red as the fires of hell.  Gorgeous. 

Knit using Addi Turbo 8s to a finished size of 68 inches from edge to edge and 32 inches from point to top.  It grew substantially when blocked and could have gone larger, but this girl's couch only folds out so large.  There's a fair amount of the ball left over, about orange sized.

The only change I made to the pattern was to knit beads into the fabric instead of the famed nupps, to conserve yarn (I was worried I wouldn't have enough?!) and a bead into every point of the cast off.  I set the beads into the fabric with a beading needle whose eye I cut open.  It's a bit like using a crochet hook, but I prefer the sharply flexible wires of a beading needle to a hook.

My grandmother is a first generation Finnish immigrant, so these had to be the beads for her shawl. Even though they were sold in strands of 10(!) and even though they were more then I spent on my groceries last month.  All told, I used 236 hand cut, Finnish glass and amber beads, purchased especially for this project from Beadazzled, where I ticked off the entire staff and took over an hour to find the right shade.  All cost and annoyance aside, they was totally worth it.  They make the shawl sing.

This fabulously fun project was brought to you by the generosity of Fidget Ann, who gave me this yarn last January, along with another skein in a softer colorway.  After such a great run with this yarn, I can't wait to use the second ball. 

Special apologies for the gray photos and boring pose!  It's been raining non-stop for two days, with more rain in the forecast, and my Grandmother's birthday is Thursday, so I had to seize the break in the downpour.  It's actually still drizzling in the top picture, so it's the only outside shot.  The next few days are going to be super hectic, then it's birthday time!  When I get back from the party, I'll be back to blogging.  I've got three sweaters to talk about, plus some other goodies.  The posting needs to keep pace with the knitting!

She gives me love, love, love, love, crazy love.

I suspect knitting suits me so well because I am mildly crazy.  With numbers on mailboxes and license plates, I feel compelled to make them total 24; most women's shirts have five buttons.  I know this because I count buttons, lights, windows, doors, even steps from the metro to my apartment.  For the record, it's a little more than eleven hundred. The repetitive mathematics of loop-loop-loop speak to me; my other hobbies should be obvious: cooking (stir-stir-stir) and running (step-step-step).  I am a creature of monotony and routine, because the rest of my life is often very disorganized.

Thus, when I finish a "repeating" project, like lace, cables, or even stockinette in the round, I feel like I've had a nap and a strong cup of tea.  I get a high that's probably illegal in a few countries and is totally disproportionate to the effort required in making the garment.  Doubly so if I use all the yarn I allocated for the project.

On so many levels, Anne Hanson's Totally Autumn Throw has been one of my most favorite projects.  The lace is simple (and simply fabulous), the end result is show stopping.  It's a gift for my MomMom, my father's mother, a woman whose suffocating love is so stereotypically Jewish it's almost funny.  When I'm not ready to hang up on her, I love her boundlessly.  Last year's Lacy Waves Top was born of the back-and-forth to see her in the hospital.  How comforting to knit with her in mind for a very different reason.

What's made this project so beautiful has been the perfect marriage of pattern with my own inanities.  I knit on the metro, waiting for class to start, at baseball games (mostly in self defense- it was cold!), even a few rows each night before sleeping.  Whenever I was wound a little too tight, this was the project I reached for.  Not surprisingly, those few rows every day really add up.

Anne Hanson, author and editrix of Knit Spot, a sublimely beautiful site, featuring her gorgeous lace designs, wrote the pattern for Totally Autumn, published in Knitty.  I used 5.25mm/US 9 Addi Turbos and 5 skeins of Wild Apple Hill Farms 100% Wool (1000 yards total), color Sandstone.  The yarn is from Rhinebeck, from the "Cheap Tweed" booth.  Knitzel Sara is making a Hemlock Ring Blanket from her score and this project was inspired by her choice.  As a side note, this the same yarn I used for the Snapping Turtle Skirt, a well documented failure in these parts, so it's nice to see the wool straighten up and fly right.   

Pre block, the throw measured 36 by 48.  Post block, 50 by 62, a slightly larger size than the "larger" size in the pattern.  I knit two fewer garter stitch rows on the top border in order to have enough to bind off and bound off purlwise to keep things loose, after working 6 repeats of the main lace and the specified 23 following rows.  If my bed were bigger, I probably could have blocked it even larger: there's a good deal of give in this pattern and would be easily modified to crib blanket or king size coverlet. 

All in all, a great project: surprisingly swift, beautifully unexpected and the perfect marriage of yarn, pattern and crazy.

Southern Comfort

Hello, Punsters!  Back from vacation, well rested and super caffeinated, I'm very excited to share some of the backlog of crafting projects going on in this old house. 

Before leaving for ParentWatch08, I spent some quality time with my sewing machine, whipping up a few gifts.  Fidget Ann offered a fabulous trade: delicious chili in a local dive for a Sing For Your Supper clutch. (Please note blatant employment of cat/terrible animal abuse)  I used the Artsy Clutch pattern from Bend The Rules Sewing by Amy Karol as a reference point, making a clutch slightly bigger than the pattern.  Both fabrics came from Purl Patchwork in New York and the button is from G Street Fabrics.  As I've been making several of the same bag- guess what! another one below! I've come to appreciate the simplicity of the pattern and its easy alteration.  Big thumbs up from this new sewer.

Dogged Ashley also received a bag, stuffed with treats and a hand knit sock!  Ashley was so sweet to knit the amazing Drunken Bee Sock for me and I waited for a long time for the "perfect" pattern for her.  Eventually, I decided that the more important part of the sock was its existence, not the absolutely perfect pattern.  In search of a pattern as charming as Asheley, I found Coupling from Knitty.  It was a great lace sock, interesting enough to be fun but not so difficult that I couldn't knit on my way to class.  Clever touches, like a lacy gusset and a twisted rib cuff give this pattern points in my book: very thoughtful.  The yarn, Dream in Color Smooshy (color: Giant Peach) wasn't my favorite, lacking somewhat in smooshiness, but it was the perfect color and I hope Ashley enjoys her sock as much as I enjoyed making it for her! 

I've got a few more project on deck, including a pair of socks, a sweater that proves I don't learn from my mistakes and a blanket from Rhinebeck Wool, but my internet is making dangerous noises.  Before I leave though, I just want to share a silly vacation picture.  Some people might have a Back Of The Bike Cam, but we at WryPunster have PonyBack Cam.  My parents live on the edge of a huge woods and I was lucky enough to enjoy a ride with my mother.  She gets to ride there everyday and I'm jealous!

Al Gore, Call Me!

Because I love being green.

It's pretty unusual for me to start a project with such ambivalence and finish with such a resounding Huzzah!  I know Grouch isn't the most timeless thing I've ever knit, and certainly not the most complicated, but hot damn, it certainly is the most trendy. Right now, that's just what I needed.

I didn't really use a pattern; I began with the idea of kipping the shaping from the Hourglass Sweater from Last Minute Knitted Gifts, but I departed so significantly that my three post it notes constitute their own quick and dirty pattern.

I used 11 balls of Debbie Bliss Cashmerino Astrakhan, which clocks in at 76 yards a ball.  Counting my swatch and the parts of the sleeves that didn't survive frogging, I probably used an additional ball, which brings my grand total to 912 yards for the dress.  That seems pretty low, but I promise I kept all my labels. 

If you're thinking of making your own Grouch Dress:

My measurements (look away, Dad) are 34-28-36.  I used about two inch of negative ease through the bust to support everything, but otherwise, there's no ease through the sweater except in the cast on.  I'm 5'6" and the dress hits just below my mid-thigh (the decency standard is where my fingertips fall, and it's longer than some of the skirts I wore in college, sigh)

My gauge, using Addi Turbo 7s and Addi wooden dpn 7s was 16 stitches and 28 rows over four inches.  For some reason, my row gauge was pretty compressed.  The yarn is fairly forgiving, and it has great memory: after wearing the dress all day, it didn't sag.  Not a whit, not an inch.  Me gusta.

Without further ado: the Grouch Dress, a quick and dirty one size pattern. 

Using circular needles, cast on 174 stitches.  Join for working in the round, being careful not to twist.  Work 8 rounds, then decrease 4 stitches, 2 stitches at each edge of the sweater (paired, if you like).  All the edges of the sweater are left to roll.

Work 11 decrease rounds and corresponding straight rounds, then one more decrease round.  For the curious, I decreased on rows 9, 18, 27, 36, 45, 54, 63, 72, 81, 90, 99 and 108.

Work 8 rows evenly (109-116) and then increase 4 stitches over the round, 2 at each side marker.  Work 12 rows between each increase, so you increase on rows 117, 130, 143, 156, 169.  Counting that up, I increased 5 times.  Work evenly until row 185.  Set aside.

Sleeves: Make 2.  Cast on 48 stitches on double pointed needles.  Work evenly for 2 inches.  Put 8 stitches on a holder (4 on either side of the round marker) and then join the sleeves to the sweater.  Centering the held stitches over the side markers.  Clear as mud?  If you've made a seamless sweater before, this makes sense.  If not, check out your LYS or Elizabeth Zimmerman.  You're putting the underarm stitches aside to graft later.

Yoke:  Work 2 rounds, one to join everything together (186) and one even round (187).  Begin raglan decreases at the points where the sleeves meet the body (so, 4 spots) every other row.  Mine were on all the even rows.  After 5 decreases, I started to short row the front.  Five stitches in from each sleeve marker on the front, I did a wrap and turn every row (that's two per row, one on each side) .  When the decreases occurred, leaving me with 4 stitches, I picked up the wrapped stitch and moved a stitch closer to the center.  This raises the back above the front, so you're not swaddled by the neck.  I wish I had kept better notes of what I did here, but I repeated this process until I had 16 stitches left between the sleeve markers.  Then I worked a round evenly, picking up all the wraps.

Neck:  With everything rejoined into a round, set your round marker at the center of the neck, between the sleeve markers.  Put another marker half way across.  Work a round evenly.  On the next round, add two stitches, one at each marker, to slant the neck forwards.  Make 1 left, make 1 right, if you will.  Repeat these two rounds (even, increase) 5 times.  For the next 4 rows, increase on every round.  Work 2 rounds evenly.  Bind off all stitches.

Finishing: Graft underarms.  Do yourself a favor and use a non-boucle for this.  Weave in your ends.   Grab your favorite boots and spend the $3700 you would have needed to buy this at Prada on more yarn.

ps: the boots?  They're Campers.  I bought them two years ago at Benjamin Lovell Shoes.   

Chasing Skirt

I don't know that I would call this the least flattering object I've ever created, but it would have to be close.   As PunMom sagely observed "That skirt was doomed.  There's a reason they don't sell snapping turtles in pet stores."

Well played, PunMom.  Not so well played, Punster.

My issues with this skirt, from my yarn choice to my pattern modification, are all my fault. 
- I substituted a heavy, stiff wool for a drapey synthetic, 
- I counted too much on my ability to block the points straight.  I  hate jagged hems.  They look like an early 80s Stevie Nicks.  I already have poofy hair.  Let's not go there.
- I didn't turn the skirt inside out, keeping the picked up stitch lines on the inside.  If I had them on the outside, it would just be too much frosting on a cake.  I also used my own stitch and row counts to accommodate my different gauge. 
- I trashed the idea of a zipper and a lining because I was out of love with this skirt long before I finished it.  I machine sewed in a piece of half inch elastic, and that will certainly hold things up.  If I ever decide to wear it, that is.
- I have a butt.  Junk in the trunk.  A bedonkadonk. Whatever you want to call it.  I have one.  And I'm only just learning to dress for it.  And a tight, modular skirt does something interesting to one's butt: it clings, clings, clings.  If I were JLo, this skirt would be a fashion statement.  I'm less JLo and more Sweet'n'Lo.  So deeply inappropriate.

So, in summary, a round failure.  I would rip it out, but I can't find my ends.  I wove them in as I went and they're, well, they're gone.  Damn.

Specs:
3 skeins of Wild Apple Hill Farms, 100% Wool, 205 yards per skein, purchased at 2007 Rhinebeck, color Bark.  Knit on dpn and 24 inch Addi Turbo US 7s, using Norah Gaughan's Snapping Turtle Skirt pattern from Knitting Nature. 

...and an apology: sorry for lousy, indoor shots.  Such is my un-enthusiasm for this skirt, I actually took it off after I took the pictures, rather than wear it outside.  That ought to say something, eh?

The First Cut Is The Deepest

First of all, how much do I love your enthusiasm for the Grouch Dress?  Right now, I've finished both sleeves (though I might rip for cap sleeves, as per suggestion of terribly fashionable Knitzel) and Operation: Body is going well.  We're two inches in, starting the shaping and pretty much convinced of our own brilliance.  And also, apparently, the use of the Royal We.  I'm still concerned about 15 skeins of boucle adding fifteen pounds, but as a risk for art, this one seems slightly below attending Juilliard on a full scholarship.

Other crafting fronts continue a pace as well: we've got some quilting, now ready for actual sewing! After about a week of concentrated afternoon work with an iron and a rotary cutter, I've sliced my seventeen yards of fabric into a blue million pieces, all ready to be Log Cabin-ed.  Pay no mind to the wrinkled additional eight yards of cotton underneath: that's just backing and I just can't face more quality time with my half-sized ironing board (just right for clothes, not just right for yardage).  After propping my board on my gate leg table, I thought of creating a huge, elasticized cover that would make the entire table an ironing board, but I feel that this might be beyond my pattern drafting sense.  And also, my budget.

Because, and this is the actual intent of this post: I am on a diet.  A yarn diet for sure (it's been two months without a hit, and mostly, I feel fine) and I have a quilt's worth of fabric to sew before I can even contemplate more.  Thus, my ground rules:

1. No new yarn before Rhinebeck.  It was going to be Sheep and Wool, but it appears my brother is selfishly graduating from college that weekend and I will be forced to spend it in a fabulous locale, eating, drinking and cavorting with family.

2.  Yarn purchase is allowed for the following (and only the following) reasons:
     a. Yarn for Dogged Knits Ashley's socks.  Do you remember that Single Sock that happened about six months ago?  I knit a single sock for poor Lisa, sent it off about a month late and was basically a terrible sock pal.  Sorry about that, babe.  But even worse than my affront to Lisa is my insult of Ashley.  She knit me a marvelous sock in addition to her other partner's sock and I have done nothing.  This changes.
    b. Yarn for Punsir's sweater.  Punsir and I have been pattern negotiation and think we have a winner.  Levin from Rowan 42: a cable and fair isle masterpiece in dk weight yarn for a man with a 46 inch chest.  Currently, this project is tabled, but should it rise from the dead, I'll need yarn.  About 28 skeins of it.
    c. If I completely use my entire stash of sweater quantity yarn.  You can see on the PunStash on Ravelry: there's yarn for at least 15 large scale garments (sweaters, substantial shrugs, vests, etc.) in there.  Currently, I have consumed about one garment's worth, in the Snapping Turtle Skirt and am about a third through the Astrakhan for my Grouch Dress.  If by some miracle of prolific production, all that yarn is gone before Rhinebeck, I'm home free.   But I'm trying to be realistic: as much as I would like to tell myself, "No new yarn until there's no more stash," that just seems unlikely.  I've got a fair amount of laceweight hanging around and until I really feel like lace, hanging around is where it'll stay.  I can only buckle down so much!
    d. Which brings me to the last exception: other people can be me yarn, but it has to be something like my Mother wants a sweater and buys the yarn.  This might happen after I finish the one that's been sitting in my knitting bag for months.  Or maybe not.  In either case, no begging on my part. 

3.  Fabric is trickier.  Punsir gave me Amy Butler's beautiful In Stitches.  In any case, no new fabric until the Log Cabin Quilt is done.  That seems simple enough.  But what to do when that's finished?
    a. Fabric can only be purchased for discrete projects.  There will be no "beautiful! on sale!  mine!" happening in this house.
    b. Or rather, the "beautiful! on sale! mine!" happening in this house can never total more than $25.  But still, this is off limits until the quilt is done.
    c. Fabric stores, like yarn stores post Rhinebeck, will be Cash Only places.  Credit cards not accepted!

That ought to keep me honest, eh?  So, friends, I'm looking to you to keep after me.  Should you see me in the throes of desire, please take my pattern book and clock me.  I promise, I'll thank you for it.

...and, should any of you feel the need to be similarly well behaved, you just let me know.